A grand left-wing conspiracy

We are well into an election year yet I find it increasingly hard to care.

Today was pretty amusing and did a fait bit to re-spark my political interest. In the morning the shadow foreign affairs Minister Julie Bishop was spreading a hair brained conspiracy that the measured expelling of an Israeli diplomat was an evil plot to get UN votes from the wicked Arabs. By the afternoon she had upgraded her stupidity to directly attacking our intelligence agencies by claiming “well we forge passports too”.

This hasn’t been an isolated event but a key tactic of the coalition just to report, spread or create any wacky conspiracies and yell them from the rooftop. This is fine for bloggers or journalists, but the opposition should at least make sure their political attacks are at least based in reality.

Where did it start? Well whilst they were still in government and continued in opposition. I’ll try and list all that I can remember.

1. Rudd lied about being kicked out of his family how when he was a kid.

Rudd was accused by Tony Abbott of lying about being kicked out of his family home after his father died. Like the birthers it presents a grand conspiracy of Rudd that goes back decades to before he was even interested in politics. Also promoted by News Ltd nitwits Tim Blair and Andrew Bolt so you know its quality bonkers.

2. Rudd is a puppet of Brian Burke.

When Rudd openly declared he had dinner with convicted criminal Brian Burke it didn’t just show bad judgement. Peter Costello proved by the power of insinuation that Rudd was now compromised and corrupted. A Prime Minister Rudd would be under control of Brian Burke all because they once shared a dinner table in 2006! Makes perfect sense.

3. Rudd is a puppet of China

Not actually based on anything apart from Kevin Rudd speaking Chinese. Several Libs used the term “Manchurian Candidate” to describe Rudd, tried to create tension with Japan by suggesting Rudd was ignoring them in favour of China and so forth. Nothing more than thinly veiled race baiting.

4. Some Chinese woman controls the defence Minister

The former defence minister had a friend who was, get this CHINESE. Cue more race baiting that somehow this woman was an evil spy who had corrupted a governement minister based on nothing more than her race.

5. The entire Kevin Rudd Primeministership is just to add to his cover letter when he’s applying for UN Secretary General.

Plays up to conservatives hatred of the UN. Illogical as a political attack because even in the unlikely even that it is true you will only be vindicated many years from now when it doesn’t even matter. First spruiked by The Australians Greg Sheridan then repeated like an annoying parrot by Julie Bishop.

6. Kevin Rudd like totally went bonkers when he couldn’t find a hairdryer.

This rumour is quite possibly true, and who really gives a shit that it is. It’s just disturbing that coalition MP’s think their job is to relay unreliable gossip they here in army barracks and somehow think it’s political attack.

7. Our aid money and expelling a diplomat is just an evil conspiracy to get the scary muslims and scary dark people to vote for us at the UN.

8. Kevin Rudd went bonkers at newspaper editors.

It’s understandable that oppositions would stretch the truth to attack their opponent. It’s another to believe any rumour no matter how ridiculous as fact as long as it makes the government look bad, it makes you look deceitful, naive and foolish. Malcolm Turnbull staked his credibility on the claims of a government staffer called Godwin Grech. It turned out Grech was lying and the price Malcolm paid was the loss of his credibility within the electorate. If the Liberals continue to waste political attacks on innuendo and gossip it just makes it harder and harder to look at them as a credible alternative.

Either that or the Arabs/Chinese/Brian Burke have gotten to me too!

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23 Responses to “A grand left-wing conspiracy”

  1. Iain Hall Says:

    Its not a conspiracy that is the problem with Rudd its his far reaching incompetence.

    Just name one significant government program that he has instigated that has not required serious rethinks or some sort of back-flip.

    Looks like the new mining tax is next for the political gymnastics.

    Do you seriously think he deserves to be reelected with his record in government?

    If you do it must be because a latte overdose 😉

  2. cosmicjester Says:

    Uhh did you read the post or just the title? It wasnt defendint the Rudd government, they have certainly had their problems with service delivery and backflips. Its about how the opposition is losing credibility in the electorate in how they attack the government.

    Think of it as the boy who cried wolf. A regular swinging voter in voterland is less likely to take opposition claims of government incompetence when the opposition makes lots of wacky claims involving Arab/Chinese conspiraices hair dryers and leaks from people like Godwin Grech. They should save their breat and attack on legitimate government failings.

  3. Iain Hall Says:

    Stretching the truth is the meat of politics CJ and all of them do it (yes even those evil vegetarian Greens 🙂 ) But I really think that you are wrong to suggest that the electorate sees each new affront to veracity devalued by those that have come before it. (Your boy who cried wolf analogy )I think there is a more cumulative effect rather more towards “the straw that broke the camels back” situation.

    In any case it will be a dark miracle if Rudd is returned at the next election because frankly he has been so bad at delivering and so keen on spin.
    Personally I blame the 24 hour news cycle and and endless electioneering

  4. cosmicjester Says:

    I’m not a greens supporter Iain.

    I think Labor will still win the election, though it will be closer than 2007. Abbott and his front bench are pretty undisciplined.

    I think the federal government isnt great at service delivery in general, regardless of who is in power. The states run most of the things that are important to our day to day lives where as the feds have the luxury of picking pet projects or increasing funding for things here and there according to electoral considerations.

  5. Iain Hall Says:

    CJ
    I was not suggesting that you are a Green supporter I was just stretching the metaphor 😉

    I think that your suggestion that all federal governments are bad at delivering is just not true, The Rudd government has been particularly bad mainly because they have tried to do too many of their ideas with unseemly haste. Your ennui is probably very common among Labor voters at present and if you think about it that bodes very badly for the government because if the swinging voters(who really decide our elections) are just as disillusioned as you are they are more likely to change their votes than you are and if enough of them do the government is gone.

  6. cosmicjester Says:

    Iain I seem to recall a post on your blog in 2008 where you predicted Lawrence Springborg would win the state election and I said an MP from outside SEQ will never get the votes in Brisbane they need to form government. I think I was right there.

    We will see eh, I never thought Tony would do as well in the polls as he has so who knows.

    My point about the feds is they run very little that we require day to day so the fed departments do not have the institutional memory that the states do to make these programs work. Just look at the waste in the defence portfolio under both governments.

  7. Tulip McGinty Says:

    Hi cosmic,

    Iain has a long history of failed electoral predictions. Mind you, since he backs conservatives and predicts the ‘downfall of the ALP’ at every Australian election, it’s hardly surprising. Worth noting too that Iain backed Julie Bishop for the deputy leadership AND the treasurer’s gig:

    http://iainhall.wordpress.com/2008/09/23/the-right-choice/

    I wonder if he continues to back her after the fake passport blunder.

    Signed,
    Tulip

  8. Iain Hall Says:

    Tulip
    I really do not think that Julie Bishops statement was of any great consequence, of course Australian agents on covert missions may have used falsified documents that is part of the spy game and that is all that Julie was suggesting.
    In any case i have crossed swords with CJ on many occasions and I think that he has a reasonable grasp of my political opinions But like all of those who follow politics I occasionally make a prediction about the outcomes of elections I was right about WA and I was wrong about South Australia.
    Big deal.
    But when it comes to the next federal election I realise that it is not a sure thing for either side But in the scheme of things both sides have an uphill battle for the lodge Brother Number One has a truly terrible record of incompetence and policy failure and spin. Tony Abbott has some baggage that he carries due to his catholic faith. The fact that the polls show that it is an even split two party preferred suggest that this is a winnable election for Abbott. Any lefty like yourself who says otherwise is delusional.

  9. Iain Hall Says:

    Sorry forgot to address your point CJ
    The feds run Defence, Social security , indigenous affairs, Customs, the tax department, Oh yeah they run very little that affects us on a day to day basis, But at least they can do a payroll without failing to pay the nurses for months!

  10. Tulip McGinty Says:

    You got WA right but you were wrong about South Australia, Queensland, the last Federal election… and probably more, I just can’t be bothered going through your back catalogue.

    I’m not surprised you’re downplaying Bishop’s gaffe though. Trouble is that it broke two significant parliamentary conventions: that MPs don’t discuss intelligence tactics and that the parties adopt a bipartisan approach on issues of domestic security. The woman is silly and emotional and not fit to run a chip shop.

  11. Iain Hall Says:

    Tulip
    I was Not wrong about the last federal election at all. I did however write about why electing Rudd and his Cronies would be a bad idea and I was completely right about that as events over the last three years have shown.
    Just what significant things has Rudd done that is praiseworthy?
    Come on name ten 😉

    There is no domestic security aspect to Julie Bishop’s comment at all she was offering the same sort of very general opinion that any reader of John leCarre might, in that Australia does the same as everyone else when it comes to covert operations of its intelligence agents, ie what ever it takes.

  12. cosmicjester Says:

    “The feds run Defence, Social security , indigenous affairs, Customs, the tax department, Oh yeah they run very little that affects us on a day to day basis”

    Defence, if the collins class subs are late or overbudget it isnt going to affect you or another voter directly. Indigenous affairs isnt run that well, social secutiy and tax are. But the states still run or regulate the things we rely on the most, roads, public transport, health, education and so on.

  13. Tulip McGinty Says:

    Just what significant things has Rudd done that is praiseworthy?

    Got rid of John Howard. That alone is worth ten.

    You won’t find me singing Rudd’s praises, frankly I think he’s turned out to be a dud. But if the alternative is Tony Abbott and his collection of misfits, I’ll take Kevin Dudd.

    An admission that Australian agents use forged passports compromises their safety and more importantly makes us look like flaming hypocrites, given the stand we took against Israel. Bishop was just engaged in petty point-scoring and put her mouth into gear before filling up her brain with unleaded.

  14. Iain Hall Says:

    Tulip

    Got rid of John Howard. That alone is worth ten.

    Yep I knew you would be a “Howard hater

    You won’t find me singing Rudd’s praises, frankly I think he’s turned out to be a dud. But if the alternative is Tony Abbott and his collection of misfits, I’ll take Kevin Dudd.

    So you would rather leave the reins of power in the hands of a man who you admit is incompetent? Thank you for being one of those who contributes to the destruction of this country by supporting ineptitude fro ideological reasons.

    An admission that Australian agents use forged passports compromises their safety and more importantly makes us look like flaming hypocrites, given the stand we took against Israel. Bishop was just engaged in petty point-scoring and put her mouth into gear before filling up her brain with unleaded.


    News Flash!!!
    Julie Bishop is not in government But if we are being made to look like hypocrites it is because of the stupidity of the Rudd government for expelling an Israeli diplomat in the first place, an action that is OTT by any measure. They should be praising Mossad for sending a terrorist straight to hell where he belongs.

  15. Tulip McGinty Says:

    Yep I knew you would be a “Howard hater”

    And I knew that you would be down on your knees at the effigy of Howard, wiping your lips with a hanky.

    So you would rather leave the reins of power in the hands of a man who you admit is incompetent?

    There is incompetence and there is dangerous incompetence. What are the alternatives? Abbott and his medieval attitudes? Joe what’s-on-today-at-the-buffet Hockey? Julie Bishop, who knows as much about national security procedure as you do about grammar? Their front bench is awash with talent…. NOT.

    That said, I might be inclined to vote for Turnbull if he was to make a comeback and rejig the Coalition shadow ministry. But I doubt it’ll happen.

    News Flash!!! Julie Bishop is not in government

    No fucking shit Sherlock. No wonder you’re a high profile blogger with perception like that.

    News flash!!! The government and the opposition generally work together on matters of national security. Bipartisanship has always been a key feature of Australian security policy.

    They should be praising Mossad for sending a terrorist straight to hell where he belongs.

    Only a retarded rural gimp like you reduces a complex argument down to neanderthal simplicitudes like that.

  16. Iain Hall Says:

    Tulip

    What are the alternatives? Abbott and his medieval attitudes? Joe what’s-on-today-at-the-buffet Hockey? Julie Bishop, who knows as much about national security procedure as you do about grammar? Their front bench is awash with talent…. NOT.

    The coalition are not perfection, but we don’t have any one who is to chose from so which would be better for the country a mob who seem incapable of properly administering any of their programs and schemes , who have run up huge debts in futile efforts to big note themselves, or a mob who can at least keep the books balanced and not squander the tax payers money?
    As For Tony Abbott’s so called Medieval attitudes I assume that You are talking about his attitude to abortion, that he personally opposes abortion will not change the government position on that quite simply because as always such things would be decided by a conscience vote in the parliament.
    Do you honestly expect us to believe that even with such a long list of failures and backflips that you will still vote for Rudd?
    You are precisely the soprt of lefty that I talk about in my latest post:
    http://iainhall.wordpress.com/2010/06/01/the-decline-of-brand-rudd-and-the-disapproval-that-dare-not-speak-its-name/

  17. Tulip McGinty Says:

    Iain, the mob who “kept the books balanced” have long gone. It wasn’t Hockey, Bishop and Kelvin Thomson who were responsible for that – it was Howard, Costello and the resources boom of the 1990s. This is the ‘new guard’ we are discussing and they are decidedly unattractive. Bishop lasted five minutes as shadow treasurer. Abbott gave the finance portfolio to Barnaby Joyce, whose knowledge of microeconomics was up there with Pauline Hanson’s. Hockey says nothing of substance but just plays his ‘nice guy’ routine until it gets boring.

    Are these the people YOU want running the country?

    No, don’t answer that, I know you do. If the ALP’s frontbench was Adlai Stevenson, John Maynard Keynes, Anuerin Bevin, Albert Einstein and Stephen Hawking you’d still vote for Tony Abbott and his Gucci accessory deputy, Julie Bishop.

    I think I’ll vote Green because I know it’s the one thing that’ll annoy you more than voting Labor.

  18. Iain Hall Says:

    Tulip
    You are going to decide how you will vote on the basis of what will piss me off????
    You really are a hate filled fool!
    Vote for who ever you please because I could not care less if you want to waste your vote on the Loopy Greens

  19. Tulip McGinty Says:

    Iain,

    Do you seriously think you are important enough to sway which individual or party I vote for?

    You really are an illiterate arse-clown.

    By the way, I can’t wait to see Dutton booted out of Dickson and replaced by an ALP candidate, which is likely after the last redistribution. Peter Dutton is to the Federal Parliament what you are to bloging (sic).

    Tulip

  20. Iain Hall Says:

    Tulip
    You said:

    I think I’ll vote Green because I know it’s the one thing that’ll annoy you more than voting Labor.

    To which I made a (very) sarcastic response.
    Then you pointedly pretend that I was being entirely serious?
    Take your hand of it , or you will go blind.

    As for Peter Dutton, the redistribution may make his fight more difficult as I am sure that I have said before at my own blog but the way that Rudd has been destroying “brand Labor” I reckon that there is a now a better than even chance that Peter will hold his seat.

  21. Tulip McGinty Says:

    “It was sarcasm”, yeah that’s one of your most common excuses.

    So are you ‘officially’ predicting that Dutton will hold his seat in Dickson?

    Please confirm so later it can be added to the “Failed Iain Hall Election Predictions” list.

  22. Iain Hall Says:

    Read my comments again Tulip

  23. Tulip McGinty Says:

    I did. No spelling mistakes, mighty impressive. Microsoft Word is a wonderful thing, isn’t it?

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